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	<title>Comments on: 5 Ministry Killers and How to Defeat Them by Charles Stone</title>
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		<title>By: A. Amos Love</title>
		<link>http://marklamberti.com/2010/02/5-ministry-killers-and-how-to-defeat-them-by-charles-stone/#comment-8442</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Amos Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 14:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew

In my experience...
What “The Religious System” promotes as a pastor/shepherd/leader
and what the Bible has to say about pastors just ain’t the same thing. :-)

IMO - Pastor burnout is caused by all these things the Bible never asks anyone to do.

When searching for what a “Pastor/Leader” does **Today**... in the Bible, 
I had a very rude awakening. 

In the Bible I found...

NO - Pastors - in Pulpits - Preaching - to People - in Pews. 
...... When folks come together, every one has a psalm, has a doctrine, 
...... has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. 1 Cor 14:26.
...... Everyone can, and is expected to, participate. NOT listen to just one.
...... The pastor in a pulpit model creates spectators in the pews.
NO - Pastors, as CEO’s of 501 (c) 3, tax deductible, Religious Corporations.
NO “disciple of Christ” “calling” another brethren - Pastor, or “My” Pastor.
NO “disciple of Christ” “calling” themself - Pastor or Leader.
......”ALL” disciples called themselves “Servants of Christ.” Hmmm?
NO “disciple of Christ” having the “Title”or “Position” - “Pastor/Leader.”
...... Today that “Title” is written on - Diploma&#039;s on walls, business cards,
...... office doors, Sunday morning bulletin, street signs, and more. 
...... And everyone knows who the “Pastor/Leader” is. Why?
...... Jesus, as man, humbled Himself, made Himself of NO reputation, 
....... took on the form of a “Servant.” Could that “Title” be an “Idol?”
NO “disciple of Christ” “Exercising Authority” over another believer. 
...... I was taught; You submit to me, NOW, your “God Ordained Authority,”
...... And, one day, when you’re a Pastor, people will submit to you. :-(
....... Power. Profit, and Prestige, is highly esteemed among men. Oy Vey!
NO - Pastors, separating themselves from the body, as “Clergy-class.”
NO - Pastors hired, or fired. 
NO - Pastors counseling anyone.
NO - Pastors marrying anyone.
NO - Pastors burying anyone.
NO - Pastors visiting the sick.
NO - Pastors wearing special clothes.
NO - Pastors going from one congregation to another. What’s up with that? ;-)
...... Elders, plural, matured within the group, when, if, appointed, they were known.
...... Pastor, Paid, Professional, is hired, and fired, NOT known. 

And the list goes on...
You could probably think of a few yourself.

IMO - Not of much of what we see **Today,** with “Pastors/leaders,”
has any reference in scripture.

Can you name one person, in the Bible, who has the “Title” passtor/reverend?
Can you name one congregation, in the Bible, “Led” by a pastor/reverend? :-(

I’m Blest... When I need someone I turn to Jesus...
I’ve returned to the Shepherd and Bishop of my soul... Jesus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew</p>
<p>In my experience&#8230;<br />
What “The Religious System” promotes as a pastor/shepherd/leader<br />
and what the Bible has to say about pastors just ain’t the same thing. <img src='http://marklamberti.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>IMO &#8211; Pastor burnout is caused by all these things the Bible never asks anyone to do.</p>
<p>When searching for what a “Pastor/Leader” does **Today**&#8230; in the Bible,<br />
I had a very rude awakening. </p>
<p>In the Bible I found&#8230;</p>
<p>NO &#8211; Pastors &#8211; in Pulpits &#8211; Preaching &#8211; to People &#8211; in Pews.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; When folks come together, every one has a psalm, has a doctrine,<br />
&#8230;&#8230; has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. 1 Cor 14:26.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; Everyone can, and is expected to, participate. NOT listen to just one.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; The pastor in a pulpit model creates spectators in the pews.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors, as CEO’s of 501 (c) 3, tax deductible, Religious Corporations.<br />
NO “disciple of Christ” “calling” another brethren &#8211; Pastor, or “My” Pastor.<br />
NO “disciple of Christ” “calling” themself &#8211; Pastor or Leader.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;”ALL” disciples called themselves “Servants of Christ.” Hmmm?<br />
NO “disciple of Christ” having the “Title”or “Position” &#8211; “Pastor/Leader.”<br />
&#8230;&#8230; Today that “Title” is written on &#8211; Diploma&#8217;s on walls, business cards,<br />
&#8230;&#8230; office doors, Sunday morning bulletin, street signs, and more.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; And everyone knows who the “Pastor/Leader” is. Why?<br />
&#8230;&#8230; Jesus, as man, humbled Himself, made Himself of NO reputation,<br />
&#8230;&#8230;. took on the form of a “Servant.” Could that “Title” be an “Idol?”<br />
NO “disciple of Christ” “Exercising Authority” over another believer.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; I was taught; You submit to me, NOW, your “God Ordained Authority,”<br />
&#8230;&#8230; And, one day, when you’re a Pastor, people will submit to you. <img src='http://marklamberti.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8230;&#8230;. Power. Profit, and Prestige, is highly esteemed among men. Oy Vey!<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors, separating themselves from the body, as “Clergy-class.”<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors hired, or fired.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors counseling anyone.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors marrying anyone.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors burying anyone.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors visiting the sick.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors wearing special clothes.<br />
NO &#8211; Pastors going from one congregation to another. What’s up with that? <img src='http://marklamberti.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8230;&#8230; Elders, plural, matured within the group, when, if, appointed, they were known.<br />
&#8230;&#8230; Pastor, Paid, Professional, is hired, and fired, NOT known. </p>
<p>And the list goes on&#8230;<br />
You could probably think of a few yourself.</p>
<p>IMO &#8211; Not of much of what we see **Today,** with “Pastors/leaders,”<br />
has any reference in scripture.</p>
<p>Can you name one person, in the Bible, who has the “Title” passtor/reverend?<br />
Can you name one congregation, in the Bible, “Led” by a pastor/reverend? <img src='http://marklamberti.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I’m Blest&#8230; When I need someone I turn to Jesus&#8230;<br />
I’ve returned to the Shepherd and Bishop of my soul&#8230; Jesus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://marklamberti.com/2010/02/5-ministry-killers-and-how-to-defeat-them-by-charles-stone/#comment-8429</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 00:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt, thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt, thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://marklamberti.com/2010/02/5-ministry-killers-and-how-to-defeat-them-by-charles-stone/#comment-8313</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 15:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor simply means shepherd.  And the position shepherd is in the Bible.  Over and over again. Human pastors are simply supposed to be undershepherds to the great shepherd.
And congregations were led by elders in the NT.  The title is just simply a different one.  If it would make you more comfortable, call your pastor your elder.  
Or... maybe you don&#039;t have one.  I don&#039;t know you, so I don&#039;t know.  Just wondering, though, if you&#039;re so against pastors (shepherds) where do you go when you need someone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor simply means shepherd.  And the position shepherd is in the Bible.  Over and over again. Human pastors are simply supposed to be undershepherds to the great shepherd.<br />
And congregations were led by elders in the NT.  The title is just simply a different one.  If it would make you more comfortable, call your pastor your elder.<br />
Or&#8230; maybe you don&#8217;t have one.  I don&#8217;t know you, so I don&#8217;t know.  Just wondering, though, if you&#8217;re so against pastors (shepherds) where do you go when you need someone?</p>
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		<title>By: A. Amos Love</title>
		<link>http://marklamberti.com/2010/02/5-ministry-killers-and-how-to-defeat-them-by-charles-stone/#comment-3200</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Amos Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible the reason “Burnout” is such a problem
for **Today’s** “Pastor/Leader” is they have found themselves

with a “Title” and “Position” NOT found in the Bible?

Did anyone have the “Title” “pastor” in the Bible?
Was anyone ordained a “pastor” in the Bible?
Were any congregations “led” by a “pastor” in the Bible?

And every “pastor” I’ve met also had the “Title” “Reverend.”

Does anyone have the “Title” Reverend in the Bible?

Does anyone have the “Title” and “Position” – “Pastor/Leader” – in the Bible?

Jesus taught “His Disciples” NOT to be called “Master/Leader”
For you have “ONE” “Master/Leader” The Christ. Mat 23:8-10 KJV

Ezekiel 14:1-7, speaks about “Idols of the Heart,”
and now God will speak to us according to the “Idols of our Heart.”
Has that “Title” “Pastor/Leader” become an “Idol?”

In my experience…

Titles become Idols.
Pastors become Masters.

Heavy weights on shoulders NOT easy to lay down.

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring, and they shall “hear my voice;”
and there shall be “ONE” fold, and “ONE” shepherd.
John 10:16

One Fold – One Shepherd – One Voice.
If Not Now, When?

Be blessed in your search for Truth… Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible the reason “Burnout” is such a problem<br />
for **Today’s** “Pastor/Leader” is they have found themselves</p>
<p>with a “Title” and “Position” NOT found in the Bible?</p>
<p>Did anyone have the “Title” “pastor” in the Bible?<br />
Was anyone ordained a “pastor” in the Bible?<br />
Were any congregations “led” by a “pastor” in the Bible?</p>
<p>And every “pastor” I’ve met also had the “Title” “Reverend.”</p>
<p>Does anyone have the “Title” Reverend in the Bible?</p>
<p>Does anyone have the “Title” and “Position” – “Pastor/Leader” – in the Bible?</p>
<p>Jesus taught “His Disciples” NOT to be called “Master/Leader”<br />
For you have “ONE” “Master/Leader” The Christ. Mat 23:8-10 KJV</p>
<p>Ezekiel 14:1-7, speaks about “Idols of the Heart,”<br />
and now God will speak to us according to the “Idols of our Heart.”<br />
Has that “Title” “Pastor/Leader” become an “Idol?”</p>
<p>In my experience…</p>
<p>Titles become Idols.<br />
Pastors become Masters.</p>
<p>Heavy weights on shoulders NOT easy to lay down.</p>
<p>And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:<br />
them also I must bring, and they shall “hear my voice;”<br />
and there shall be “ONE” fold, and “ONE” shepherd.<br />
John 10:16</p>
<p>One Fold – One Shepherd – One Voice.<br />
If Not Now, When?</p>
<p>Be blessed in your search for Truth… Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://marklamberti.com/2010/02/5-ministry-killers-and-how-to-defeat-them-by-charles-stone/#comment-2343</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! I will be in touch for your address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! I will be in touch for your address.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://marklamberti.com/2010/02/5-ministry-killers-and-how-to-defeat-them-by-charles-stone/#comment-2340</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book sounds interesting, I&#039;m a pastor in Hong Kong, but if you still have it, I can give you a US address that will be forwarded to me.

thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book sounds interesting, I&#8217;m a pastor in Hong Kong, but if you still have it, I can give you a US address that will be forwarded to me.</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
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